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Post by drgonzo on Feb 3, 2005 17:35:57 GMT
Ahh, a new review. But wait. Its not really a review, but yet another 'look at all the band names I can drop in' excersize, and the phrase
'Snooky are capable of (I hate to say it) mainstream success'
pisses me off more than anything else. You've already said that you like the album. You've said that it sounds cool. Why would you hate for a band that you like to have some 'mainstream success'?
Surely that would be not only a good thing for Snooky, but a good thing for Cumbrian music in general, forcing the up-their-own-arse A&R type to stop focusing on their own London-centric world and look up here to see what great bands there are.
Which would be good for about 90% of people who are into Motivesounds as that is what we are all here for.
Grow up.
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Post by Russell Infidel on Feb 3, 2005 18:33:02 GMT
yeah i agree. Don't get me wrong, the reviews great and I'm very grateful to henri park for his kind comments.
But at the same time I agree with dr gonzo. mainstream success shouldn't be perceived as a negative thing. As long as a band doesn't change their sound in a conscious attempt to become more commercially successful then it's fine.
I admire lots of bands who have achieved mainstream success and lots that haven't. It shouldn't matter either way.
it can be the downfall of a band tho so Henri is right too. Hundred reasons, for example were once an underground phenomenon. then they had a couple of hit singles, a big selling debut album and soon became a fairly mainstream band.
their second album was a flop. it saw the mainstream crowd slip away and the original 'underground' fans were already long gone. now they're knackered and back to playing venues as small as when they first started. shame really. can't remember what my point was gonna be now. oh well. laters people
seeyas at the yard on Sat night?
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Post by drgonzo on Feb 3, 2005 18:53:34 GMT
i agree that a band trying to achieve mainstream success by whoring their sound is about as shamefull and tastless as it gets.
a good band achieving mainstream (by mainstream I assume you mean commercial/label/chart) success through being bloody good (i.e. any decent band you've heard on the radio. ever.) then there's nothing that inspires more hope for the sordid corporate world that is the music industry.
as i dont think the lads are going to be selling out any time soon (unless imminent mega-stardom provokes heavy class a bills that can only be paid through chart-chasing) i think that if the first time you hear em you thnk they're gonna be big then that is an entirely positive thing.
and yeah, i'll see you saturday.
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Post by who cares on Feb 3, 2005 19:31:10 GMT
Hundred reasons, for example were once an underground phenomenon. then they had a couple of hit singles, a big selling debut album and soon became a fairly mainstream band. i never liked hundred reasons, to be honest i thought they always sounded like they were trying to get radio 1 to love them, which to a certain degree (aka 1 album) it worked. but yeah i utterly agree with the view that being commercial isn't a good thing if it's forced. but if it comes to ya from outta nowhere and ya happy who cares? nirvana were commercial, this doesn't mean they were shit (albeit unhappy). if anything, i heard teen spirit when it hit the charts which kinda snapped me outta lines 'n' noses, which in turn led me to some fuckin awesome music that i may not have discovered til later life, if at all. ..............and teen spirit may aswell be a fucking aqua song it's so poppy. (cue the hate for me following that statement) if anyone is so concerned about having to 'not like the wrong music' they may aswell get out the burberry caps and be done with it. if ya don't like pop, jazz, metal, hard house, whatever, it's unfair to typecast any music as commercial just coz it's shit as there is allsorts in the media spotlight today. anywho good to see reviews comin back ;D ;D |
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Post by drgonzo on Feb 3, 2005 22:07:10 GMT
if anyone is so concerned about having to 'not like the wrong music' they may aswell get out the burberry caps and be done with it. damn straight my man. if its good and people buy it then thats cool by me if people are seeing making a living out of playing good music as a bad thing, then they can four-x off because thats what we're all wantin to do... and yeah, negatives aside, keep them reviews comin. good to see the old motive cranking back to life! |
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Post by MagSnookyStyle on Feb 4, 2005 1:57:52 GMT
Cheers for the review Henri, good to see a few reviews knocking around. the points well covered now but yeah, mainstream is good for me....because for atleast, i hope people can connect and enjoy our music and if mainstream means thats a lot of people "digging the groove" then, im as happy as that bloke larry. and i agree, forcing out pop songs to get rich and famous....bring on simon cowell,ya know. i just think its ace weve been likened to the blues bros, cus russ dressed up as one last year, much to my approval.....sorry for that tangent. see you saturday and if any1s interested, im spending the next day making up cds so if you want one dont be affraid to ask on saturday  |
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Post by drstefanbukkake on Feb 4, 2005 10:47:20 GMT
yeah, as 'reviews editor' i guess it will be in my remit to send reviews back to the writers if the comparisons are too obscure. i've not heard 'deflower' so i can't comment in this instance (mind you, i've not heard minus the bear either, so shoot me down). but i'm going to try not to interfere with the writers, just tidy things up a bit.
as for 'mainstream success' well, i think henri park is referring to the fact that a lot of reviewers tip bands for mainstream success and he hates to join in the trend and tip Snooky as well. that's my interpretation.
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Post by drgonzo on Feb 4, 2005 15:00:27 GMT
of course dr. bukkake.
this is all an interpretive rant using mr park's review as a springboard to discuss larger issues ie. underground vs 'mainstream' popularity.
i think its a fine review cos it got me thinking about the band and if I've got issues with certain things said, then this is the place to bring em out.
roll on the next review!
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Post by who cares on Feb 4, 2005 19:21:28 GMT
as for 'mainstream success' well, i think henri park is referring to the fact that a lot of reviewers tip bands for mainstream success and he hates to join in the trend and tip Snooky as well. that's my interpretation. good point my good bukkake, i did not think of it at all in that sense. anyone know who's next up for a review? or is it as and when? |
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Post by who cares on Feb 4, 2005 19:22:25 GMT
i gotsk 2 stars now, yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sorry)
;D
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Post by Howlette on Feb 4, 2005 19:27:28 GMT
i am still awaiting...
chapel ten
allegiance free
the heat
trinket box
adelphi
maybe some mroe.
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Post by Jamie_t on Feb 5, 2005 1:19:03 GMT
I'm getting the Snooky cd tommorow so I'll post my little review then!
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Post by who cares on Feb 5, 2005 12:38:28 GMT
i am still awaiting... chapel ten i think we waited for over a year for our review, then we split up.........  ...........personally i'm now blaming motive sounds! hahahah ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Howlette on Feb 6, 2005 15:51:16 GMT
i think we waited for over a year for our review, then we split up......... ...........personally i'm now blaming motive sounds! hahahah ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by David on Feb 7, 2005 21:10:37 GMT
what? chapel ten split? crap. shame.
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Post by who cares on Feb 8, 2005 2:54:53 GMT
yuh huh,
bit of a pisser, but fuck it.
might just fill ma empty nights reviewing bands so as to stop them splittin too.
(it's all marks fault)
;D ;D
haha
actually, if anyone does fancy hearing my thoughts on their discs, i'd be more than happy to do it. just send me a mesg or summat.
;D
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Post by David on Feb 8, 2005 17:32:11 GMT
at the de rosa gig, we gave you guys a three inch CD.
its our new stuff. but i dunno who got it. so if you have any thoughts plesae share those
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Post by who cares on Feb 8, 2005 18:56:36 GMT
at the de rosa gig, we gave you guys a three inch CD. its our new stuff. but i dunno who got it. so if you have any thoughts plesae share those i never got it mate, unlikely to now aswell i guess. any chance of a copy again? i'll copy it and give you the disc back if you like? |
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Post by who cares on Feb 8, 2005 18:57:59 GMT
also i'd had a little to drink, so in all truth could've done anything to/with it if ya gave it to me.
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...........personally i'm now blaming motive sounds!